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Post by graham on Jul 19, 2006 17:47:03 GMT
Graham, do you think he was wearing 'Lace-up boots and cord-er-oys' ! Possibly, but he was definately wearing a tea cosy...
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Post by steve on Jul 19, 2006 22:36:28 GMT
I think recently downloaded some Advert songs and I still think that they never played as good as Gaye Advert used to look? 'Gary Gilmores' eyes was a real cracker though, it's no time to be 41! Oh ok, nearly 45 then.
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Post by graham on Jul 19, 2006 22:48:03 GMT
One Chord Wonders was also a classic! T V Smith is still going strong I believe with his own cult follwing, not that I've heard much of his stuff.. I have got some benefit compilation for a social centre in Nottingham with him on it, can't remember much about the song, but at least he's still prepared to put his money where his mouth is... Oh dear, I think I might have just damned him with faint praise, which isn't what I set out to do at all...
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Post by filf on Jul 20, 2006 11:50:25 GMT
Ahhh the tea cosy, if only it had been part of the punk attire. Woulda saved a fortune on all that hair spray and gel. I think the Adverts first album was released at a time when most bands were releasing kick-ass albums, so it was always gonna be tough, especially with the songs mentioned above. They set the bar pretty high! And yeah, steady on with that praise Graham. Another album just came to mind, anyone like the first Vibrators album? was it called V1? Back out to the shed to check!
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Post by stevet on Jul 20, 2006 17:27:40 GMT
Well my favourire would have to be the Pistols, Never mind the bollocks.I know its an obvious choice, but it needs to be put in context.Yes they were against "tearing things down" thats why they were so bloody brilliant. !! The rest that followed wouldnt have without the Pistols. Some of the music might have come about, but certainly not the attitude !! What came before needing changing, and it gave it all a kick up the backside !! Personally i have varied tastes and one of my musical favourites was the first PIL album, followed closely by Unknown Pleasures by Joy Division. I also was a big fan off Spizz Oil/Energi (sad, but there you go)!!!
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Post by donnap on Jul 21, 2006 19:00:43 GMT
Best Punk Album, perhaps not the best musically because hearing some of the tracks now seem red roar, but for the spirit and (yeah predictable I know) but seeing Poly Styrene on TOTP was soooo liberating. Yep, you could be you. So for that The World Turned Dayglow. Other good ones, yeah I liked Crossing the Red Sea (bought in the bargin bin) and turned out good; This is the Modern World for being able to hear the message rather than feel it first time around; but ultimately of course NMTB - my parents bought if for me that Christmas (we were each allowed to choose one album every yuletide). My brother had Showaddywaddy, my sister George Benson. So that woke the house up! I remember my dad's face listening to Abortion on Christmas day . . . hardly one he could hum along to.
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Post by Planet Mondo on Jul 31, 2006 22:46:28 GMT
Gotta Be NMTB Sex Pistols. Proper punk power in a perfect package. From the cover to the titles, every track is a winner with those cracking opening riffs, tip top lyrics and power house drumming. It hasn't lost any of its wallop over the years - I love the Damneds albums, 1st Album and (Machine Gun Etiquette in particular), - Feeding of the 5000, Xray Spex and Revillos, - But if it hadn't been for the pistols I would never have got into the rest.
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Post by foggy on Aug 2, 2006 17:48:22 GMT
best album i think was NMTB,s still a sunday morning favorite wiv me ,not so the missses tho ,every track a classic ,good job they only lasted 5 mins cos they would of never topped that
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Post by filf on Aug 4, 2006 10:04:44 GMT
Definatley agree, NMTB was the benchmark for punk. A second album would have been great but, as you say, it would have been hard to better NMTB. I can still remember the agonising wait for it to hit the record shops, and the guy at the record shop in Benfleet showing me and Copper the album cover while trying to hide the word Bollocks! Can only imagine the councilling we would have needed if he had exposed us to such filth at such a young age!
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Post by graham on Aug 4, 2006 12:12:14 GMT
I disagree that it would have been good if the Pistols had made a second album (I assume we're not counting 'Swindle'...), I think its better that NMTB continues to stand up as an icon of punk rather than have been tarnished by 'the difficult second album' syndrome, where the band would have lost their orriginal drive and spark, and become over-rehearsed, polished and professional (I think because it was so late in coming out there are already signs of this happening on NMTB)... They did what James Brown suggested at the end of 'Sex Machine', they "got way ahead and quit", and like the best performers left the audience wanting more...
Like Faulty Towers, The Office, and an all to rare handful of TV shows, they reached their creative peak and knew when to stop, unlike Mclaren who kept churning out all the substandard out-takes and rubbish just to make a few quid... Parralels between 'Flogging A Dead Horse' and 'Only Fools & Horses' perhaps???
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Post by filf on Aug 7, 2006 10:50:29 GMT
I guess there was always the danger of dilluting the affect of NMTB with the release of a second album and saying i would have liked to have seen a further release was exactly as you say, leave us wanting more. But as we all know, outside of their sandard set, they didn't have anything else to offer other than a few covers, and the dynamics of the band were always going to lead to implosion before a futher album release. Much as i loved the Clash, their first album was so much better than anything else that followed it. Im not saying that they should have quit after the first, as their were some good tracks on the albums that followed, but there was also some absolute crap too! Did the Clash sell out, or were they evolving and changing their sound ? After all, wasnt that one of the fundamentals of punk; change, be different. There was still a message in their songs.
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Post by graham on Aug 7, 2006 19:03:38 GMT
London Calling was a pretty fantastic album though, and a regular in 'best album of all time' type polls. But by then I guess The Clash were no longer a punk band but had evolved to something else...They never did much consistently good after that though, a few brilliant singles and tracks such as kasbah, Straight to Hell (personally I think their highest point), but no albums that were that great all the way through.
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Post by Marcus on Aug 31, 2006 10:09:39 GMT
I'm not advocating it as best punk album, but I don't think you can ignore an album which has Safe European Home, Tommy Gun and Stay Free on it. Just think how good it would have been with different production.
And remember; if you're in The Crown tonight, have a drink on me....
But go easy...step lightly...stay free
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Post by Billyb on Sept 21, 2007 23:56:11 GMT
The Pistols' - NMTB and The Clash's first album- are both absolute classics. But for me- it has got to be Stations of the Crass - it's more powerful than Feeding of the 5000 and lyrically- it's awesome! Virtually every single lyric in that entire double album is an intelligent, quotable classic line!
As for the worst - what about The Clash - Sandinista! What's that all about? Do you reckon anyone has ever sat themselves down and listened to the entire thing from start to finish?
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Post by alaninoz on Sept 22, 2007 4:48:12 GMT
Lots of Clash Bashing, as there always was. My view, for what its worth is that the Clash were purely and simply the best rock band ever, from the early punk days through to Combat Rock. They never let themselves be put in a box and always tried to push the barriers back. Joe Strummer was always true to his beliefs and made a triumphant comeback with the Mescaleros. When he died at a ridiculously young age he was still making relevent, challenging and exciting music. I saw the Clash and the Mescaleros twice each and all four were fantastic gigs. I will miss the man forever, though I never met him and it still upsets me that I will never hear another new song from Joe.
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